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some polical tricks of Plato2016-12-23


Hello guys! I chose the Republic as my reading book this

semester. Plato is an undoubtedly milestone in the history of western

thought. In his best-known work The Republic, he expressed his opinion on

politics and philosophy through Socratic dialogue,

concerning the definition of

justice, the order and character of the just city-state and the just man. Apart

from the shinning ones, I found some unfair, even ridiculous ideas and

political tricks in his book. For example, in page 127, he said “We shall have

to invent some ingenious kind of lots which the less worthy may draw on each

occasion of our bringing them together, and then they will accuse their own

ill-luck and not the rulers.”  Did the

logic ring a bell to you? Is it anything similar in you daily life? Also, he

quite looked down upon women. In his opinion, a perfect country shall be formed

by male. Honesty, some of Plato’s are tyrannical.

That quite shocked me. I

planned to discuss it in my review report but gave it up at last, for fear that

I might be too subjective. So I’d like to share these ideas here with you.


Looking forward to you point

of views!


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  • 韩羽桐
    As for his attack on woman, we must acknowledge that it is too demanding for Plato if we expect him to have an idea of gender equality. For in Athens women served as nothing but tool to reproduce. They are not educated and not endowed with any kind of rights. So if we want to better understand Plato's idea in our time, why don't we interpret this sentence into "a perfect country shall be formed by the well-educated"?
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  • 韩羽桐

    Firstly, I probably could offer you some explanation on why Plato held such distrust or even hostility toward democracy and the general public ( or they can also be described as "mob" if wo should use a word consisten with Plato's attitude). The most important reason, I think, is Socrates's death. I believe this incident impacted him more than we could imagine. He believed Socrates to be a wiseman, and he admired Socrates so much. It rumored that in his early age, Plato used to be an excellent tragic poet. But after he met Socrates, he destroyes all his manuscripts in order to be a student of Socrates', for Socrates held a negative attitude on poets and poetry. He admired his teacher so much that from the death of Socrates, when Plato was in his 20s, to the end of his life, that is, in his 80s, Socrates has been his sole poignat of most of his works. But the Athenian democracy killed his beloved teacher, the wisest man in Athens. From then on, his hostility to the "public" must be so strong that his political idea seems even a little bit tyrannical. 



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